Binance CEO Jokes About Removing Bitcoin from CoinMarketCap

Multicurrency Wallet DEXs will be the standard of the 2020s. The present status quo is an absolute joke.

Before I begin, I'd like to ask you a question. Why are so many of the most established people in crypto among the most closed-minded when it comes to talking about new ideas? Why is the crypto space more concerned with what a clown from Australia is lying about or petty figurehead drama than the hard work and effort of the good and lesser-known among them?
Let's talk about altcoins for a minute. It'd be a very tough job to count every single alt that's come in on a hypetrain and died in obscurity. If I were to guess that 95% of them failed, I wouldn't be surprised to hear that it was a conservative estimate and that the number is even higher. Indeed, it would be much easier to count the exceptions to the rule. To name a few - ETH, LTC, XMR, and (quite amusingly) DOGE.
Should the stubbornly high failure rate of alts justify writing them all off as garbage? Businesses have an incredibly high failure rate too. It would be foolish - outright silly, even - to say that the grocery store is a fraud and a scam because the aqua-saxophone jazzercise laundromat failed to live up to it's expectations. Maybe not, because this is exactly the way the crypto space is right now.
That line of thinking is the de facto standard in the cryptocurrency space right now - "guilty (of being a shitcoin) until proven innocent (by some central authority figure or big exchange who can validate it for us so we don't have to do it ourselves)". To be fair, there was an aggressive torrent of these "goofy laundromats" in 2017 and people are either hungover or shell-shocked from all the broken pipedreams and costly fiction. You'd think that the titans of this industry, particularly those who care more about the cypherpunk essence of Bitcoin than how rich they can get off of it, would be more receptive to the legitimate projects that are working in obscurity to harden the crypto space and it's infrastructure. Unfortunately, that does not seem to be the case. All too many seem to think that everything that needed to be built has already been built.
Considering that all the Bitcoin titans are somewhat newly-minted, the irony is remarkable. No one used to take Bitcoin seriously. The further back in time you go, the more it took lonely effort and independent research to truly grasp its ideas. This is still the case today. Most have heard of it but have no idea what it is or why it's important. Many who are fervently in PMs or traditional investments like stocks and bonds continue to deride it, even though it will go down as the best performing asset of the 2010s by far. Others are a little more aggressive and, despite a lack of knowledge, call it anything from a scam to "rat poison squared". Like anything else, it's foolish to make bold claims atop little to no education.
You'd think that treatment would make Bitcoin maximalists do some reflecting. Instead, a sizable number of them decided to emulate the ones who beat up on Bitcoin when it was small and irrelevant. "All you need is Bitcoin. Everything else is trash. I know what I'm talking about because I bought the top of the 2013 bubble and I'm probably immune to future dumps for life".
Now let's talk about where cryptocurrency infrastructure falls short. Bitcoin still retains the same cypherpunk essence that it's always had. The same can be said for Bitcoin wallets. They're secure. They allow for anonymous transactions. They run on an immutable blockchain. There is no central authority between a key-holder and their funds. Enter the exchanges. In a way, they were a necessary evil. Without them, adoption would be severely throttled. With them, Bitcoin is compromised.
For many, the privacy and anonymity that BTC is supposed to offers has been tossed out. It was the only way it could be retrofitted into a tightly-controlled system that demands KYC. While this has helped to spread adoption, Bitcoin has become more and more traceable. Quite ironically, many of these same exchanges that adopted KYC policies to "ensure accountability from their customers" had no trouble exit scamming.
They come and go. The old one gets hacked, or it exit scams, or proves itself to be corrupt and suspicious. A new one comes. This time it will be different. Then the cycle repeats itself. Mt. Gox. Bitfinex. Polo. Bittrex. Binance. They all had their time in the Sun.
These exchanges are in many ways the antithesis of the cypherpunk manifesto - vulnerable honeypots directly controlled by a centralized figurehead. Unsurprisingly, they cause a lot of unneeded trouble and give Bitcoin a ton of bad publicity. Example:
Me: "What do you think of Bitcoin?"
Co-worker: "Didn't that thing get hacked last week?"
Me: "Bitcoin didn't, but a place where it was exchanged was."
Co-worker: "I don't trust it. It's only a matter of time til they find out how to type in some numbers to make more show up on a screen blah blah blah."
You've all likely met someone like this and brushed them off as closed-mined, but they're exactly the type of person this industry needs to convince to further adoption. It will be next to impossible to do so with the way things are right now.
In order for Bitcoin to survive, it needs exchanges that are built to the same code that it was. The solution, therefore, is to "port" the cypherpunk essence of Bitcoin to the exchanges. Immutability. Anonymity. Privacy. No central authority of figurehead.
With all that said, let's talk about DEXs. I started a thread on here a few months back when Binance announced that they were giving Americans the boot. I got a ton of answers. It shows that, among the hardcore at least, there is a desire to go in a new direction. Loopring, IDEX, and Bisq were among the more popular choices.
It's a step in the right direction. However, these DEXs are still rather inaccessible - especially to outsiders. Performance wise, they're on the slower side of things. Due to these setbacks, they suffer from low volume. This is where some recent developments in multicurrency wallets with embedded DEXs from lesser-known projects will come out of obscurity and catch everyone by surprise.
Among them - I'd like to mention Stakenet Wallet and KMD's Atomic DEX. Both of them, now seemingly weeks away from launch, will allow for atomic swaps between a wide variety of coins directly from a private wallet. Stakenet goes a step further by offering atomic swaps running atop Lightning Network.
Why does this matter? These two platforms will be to exchanges what the inception of Bitcoin was to currency. Finally, after almost 9 years, Bitcoin not only has an exchange that truly honors its essence, but it's starting to see healthy competition between them.
To elaborate further on why this is very important.. No KYC. No accounts. No sending Bitcoin to an exchange and waiting around for it to show up. No downloading multiple wallets. No exchange figureheads. No withdrawal freezes. In Stakenet's case, the decentralized MN network that runs it's DEX will also act as a massive LN payment processor (routing, watchtowers) that provides a ton of liquidity for it while allowing Bitcoin to scale. "Lightning swaps" will provide every LN-based coin the ability to be instantly swapped to purchase anything in BTC. Stakenet will also feature a DEX aggregator that will pool together the orderbooks of numerous DEXs into one easily-accessible spot, boosting traffic to the many DEXs that are harder to reach and furthering their adoption along. Simply download a wallet like you would any other app and you're ready to get started. It's so much easier and more convenient. I don't see how or why CEXs and all their ilk (figurehead drama, geoblocking, exchange hacks, wash trading, currency manipulation, exit scams, etc) could remain relevant in the environment to come.
Regulation will not save us. Decentralization will. As long as one person learned something from this, it was all worth it. I welcome the opinions of everyone in this space.
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Subreddit Stats: pivx top posts from 2017-01-04 to 2017-12-29 15:38 PDT

Period: 358.66 days
Submissions Comments
Total 1000 7278
Rate (per day) 2.79 21.34
Unique Redditors 417 1160
Combined Score 13420 14900

Top Submitters' Top Submissions

  1. 1739 points, 101 submissions: turtleflax
    1. PIVX Now First Coin to Offer Both PoS and Total Privacy with Zerocoin Protocol (73 points, 16 comments)
    2. The PIVX/KRW trading pair is live on Upbit! (58 points, 8 comments)
    3. PIVX Officially Becomes the Most Widely Translated Crypto WIth 27 languages (50 points, 5 comments)
    4. PIVX up 50% in 3 days (48 points, 32 comments)
    5. How I imagine PIVX happened (45 points, 3 comments)
    6. How much privacy should we have? (45 points, 7 comments)
    7. PIVX Q4 Plans and Releases (42 points, 10 comments)
    8. PIVX Q4 - On Target and On Track (39 points, 17 comments)
    9. PIVX added to Flyp.me exchange (38 points, 4 comments)
    10. PIVX hits new USD ATH of $6.28 (36 points, 12 comments)
  2. 667 points, 36 submissions: tyromaniac
    1. PIVX Core version 2.3.0 is now available (43 points, 17 comments)
    2. Why 2018 will be the year for Proof of Stake coins like PIVX (35 points, 4 comments)
    3. Professional Cryptographer joined PIVX team! (33 points, 8 comments)
    4. The PIVmobile! (33 points, 5 comments)
    5. PIVX Core Client V3.0.2 now available! (31 points, 24 comments)
    6. PIVX Ledger Hardware Wallet Integration Now Available (30 points, 3 comments)
    7. PIVX Sponsors NIKE Playarena League in Katowice, Poland (29 points, 0 comments)
    8. PI'VE is now on walletgenerator.net! Paper wallets for everyone! (26 points, 6 comments)
    9. Devs love what they do and keep doing what they love. zPIV is just the beginning. (25 points, 10 comments)
    10. Deterministic zPIV Generation On The Way (24 points, 3 comments)
  3. 550 points, 30 submissions: elishagh_1
    1. Bitcoin.com: Pivx Brings Absolute Privacy to Proof of Stake Cryptocurrencies with Zerocoin Protocol Implementation (44 points, 6 comments)
    2. PIVX Governance Makes a Landslide Decision to Redistribute Voting Power to the PIVX Community (37 points, 26 comments)
    3. PIVX is Now Available on Chinese Exchange Btc100 (32 points, 7 comments)
    4. Integration: Livecoin Adds PIVX (30 points, 0 comments)
    5. Bitcoin Bill Payment Service Provider in Australia Adds PIVX (25 points, 0 comments)
    6. PIVX Masternodes Give Up Voting Rights to Enable True Decentralization | Finance Magnates (25 points, 1 comment)
    7. Living Room Of Satoshi Adds PIVX - The Merkle (23 points, 1 comment)
    8. PIVX Provides an Instant, Private and Community Designed Governance Alternative to Dash (23 points, 3 comments)
    9. PIVX Will Soon Implement Zero-Knowledge Proofs (22 points, 2 comments)
    10. PIVX Zerocoin Protocol Integration get Featured on Bitcoin.com Spanish Blog: PIVX se convierte en la primera criptodivisa en implementar el protocolo de Zerocoin en la aplicación (22 points, 0 comments)
  4. 356 points, 13 submissions: CryptoMaximalist
    1. Come on PIVX, we have 4300 subscribers on reddit alone but only 950 votes! Go vote on Binance, it only takes a few minutes!! (37 points, 3 comments)
    2. PIVXpress: Did You Know #6: zPIV (Zerocoin Protocol in PIVX) History! - Zerocoin transaction and minting successfully tested on the testnet (36 points, 3 comments)
    3. PIVX officially announces they are working on implementation of the Zerocoin protocol (35 points, 5 comments)
    4. Yesterday I sent $10 in Bitcoin and it cost $1.53 in fees. Today I sent $60 in PIVX and it cost $0.00017 (35 points, 11 comments)
    5. AirVPN is now accepting PIVX through CoinPayments (30 points, 3 comments)
    6. The privacy market is bullish (30 points, 1 comment)
    7. PIVX Puts Users at the Forefront of Governance (27 points, 0 comments)
    8. Jaxx Announces Massive Expansion, including partnership with PIVX (26 points, 0 comments)
    9. PIVX news and milestones from this past month (26 points, 6 comments)
    10. PIVX can be accepted at any of the 250+ merchants using CoinPayments! (21 points, 0 comments)
  5. 335 points, 20 submissions: Goodguy91
    1. PIVX mobile wallet is Here (40 points, 18 comments)
    2. This is going to be huge!!! (33 points, 9 comments)
    3. We have reached 100k sats!!!!! (31 points, 13 comments)
    4. Finally get to see PIVX above $3.00 (28 points, 2 comments)
    5. Whats wrong with Pivx and what we can do to fix it (20 points, 32 comments)
    6. How to beat The whale Suppressing Pivx Price (19 points, 8 comments)
    7. PIVX floodgates opened up wide (19 points, 4 comments)
    8. Part 2 of 3 Proof of Pivx mobile wallet (17 points, 13 comments)
    9. A few reasons to not worry about the price of PIVx (16 points, 14 comments)
    10. This is why in the end PIVX will be out Dash XVG and the other Anons (15 points, 5 comments)
  6. 305 points, 28 submissions: bitbarrie
    1. PIVX Gets Serious About Merchant Adoption. (30 points, 18 comments)
    2. ZEROCOIN (25 points, 6 comments)
    3. Leaked Mint and Spend of zPIV!!! (23 points, 12 comments)
    4. PIVX SLACK HITS 7500! https://slack.pivx.org/ (22 points, 7 comments)
    5. Android wallet update 1.02 live on the google play store (21 points, 10 comments)
    6. PIVX.ORG now in 17 languages....Welcome Croatia! (14 points, 2 comments)
    7. Crypto meetup in Saskatoon! PIVX will be there! (13 points, 0 comments)
    8. Latest android mobile wallet update live now on google play v1.023 (13 points, 2 comments)
    9. Crucial time in Governance talks (12 points, 17 comments)
    10. AMA in discord about PIVX!!! (11 points, 5 comments)
  7. 297 points, 26 submissions: Decentralizd
    1. PIVX gets a special mention in /btc for public mod logs! Transparency FTW! (22 points, 2 comments)
    2. Reddit growth is on the run! We've added 100+ people in 3 days, good job guys! (21 points, 1 comment)
    3. PSA #2: Users caught FUDing, making up lies, or just overall being toxic will have their posts deleted and then if it continues, 365 day bans. Be professional, humble & polite, or please go elsewhere. (20 points, 14 comments)
    4. PIVX & Bitcoin Comparison Chart by SnappySnap (18 points, 0 comments)
    5. That PIVX Volume though... can anyone say break out? (18 points, 1 comment)
    6. The Dash Fork, PIVX Cryptocurrency Brings Private Instant Verified Transactions to the Masses - Huffington Post Blog (18 points, 0 comments)
    7. WE ARE ADDING A /MERCHANTS PAGE! Post here to get listed please! (15 points, 3 comments)
    8. #PIVXPRESS – New Connection to all things PIVX - and your favorite @Snappysnap is hosting it! GET HYPED!! (14 points, 2 comments)
    9. Come help build the PIVX Stack Exchange! Questions, Upvotes & comments needed. (Not answers just yet, thats phase 2) (13 points, 0 comments)
    10. PSA: There is an ongoing troll and fud fest from paid sources, be wary of all these new and random accounts coming around with 'issues' and 'opinions', it's all FUD. Proves we are onto something. (13 points, 6 comments)
  8. 262 points, 16 submissions: Franko1995
    1. Why PIVX will SKYROCKET this year (27 points, 11 comments)
    2. PIVXPress: Roadmap of PIVX :) (26 points, 3 comments)
    3. TED talks I Glenn Greenwald - Why privacy matters (24 points, 11 comments)
    4. PIVX is the exclusive representative of privacy, crypto and community at the FIRST ever RED PILL EXPO! (23 points, 3 comments)
    5. PIVX Crypto Soccer team playing in NIKE League in Poland - Like and share! (21 points, 0 comments)
    6. Did you know that? (20 points, 0 comments)
    7. TOKENLAB will soon be accepting PIVX! (20 points, 7 comments)
    8. PIVX Sponsorship of Top Polish Nike Playarena League Team Proposal! (18 points, 4 comments)
    9. PIVXPress - July 19, 2017 - You should know about this things (16 points, 7 comments)
    10. Request: Get PIVX on LYKKE exchange! Please use capital letters for PIVX :) (13 points, 0 comments)
  9. 196 points, 16 submissions: RiftyM
    1. Came across this on cryptocompare.com and wanted to share :) (28 points, 3 comments)
    2. PIVONIA - Episode 1 (24 points, 6 comments)
    3. HODL on guys! WE WILL BE VICTORIOUS! (21 points, 9 comments)
    4. T-Minus 7 Days and Counting! (17 points, 1 comment)
    5. Found on Cryptocurrency. Too funny not to share with this community (15 points, 1 comment)
    6. What is your favorite feature of PIVX that no other coin offers? (15 points, 21 comments)
    7. Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's the moon! (14 points, 9 comments)
    8. That feeling when you see PIVX recovering (11 points, 4 comments)
    9. Do you think PIVX will rise after the conference? (8 points, 10 comments)
    10. If cryptocurrencies were cars, PIVX would be the Bugatti Veyron (8 points, 3 comments)
  10. 181 points, 15 submissions: BryanDoreian
    1. PIVX/BTC Dec 10th Compression Wedge Breakout (22 points, 1 comment)
    2. TA analysis - PIVX to 270/300K sats. (18 points, 0 comments)
    3. PIVX: The Most Privacy Centric Proof Of Stake Cryptocurrency (16 points, 0 comments)
    4. PIVXfans: 11 days till zPIV campaign and release - PIVX (15 points, 0 comments)
    5. DYK: YOU control the currency? (14 points, 1 comment)
    6. PIVX translated into Croatian! 17 languages and counting! (13 points, 0 comments)
    7. PIVX on CEX.IO (GO VOTE) (12 points, 3 comments)
    8. PIVX - PRIVACY MATTERS: 1.3 Billion Indian residents now enjoy privacy as a fundamental intrinsic right thanks to a 9-0 vote by their supreme court (11 points, 4 comments)
    9. The Most Interesting Coin In The World! (11 points, 4 comments)
    10. VOTE for PIVX (if you have twitter)! (10 points, 6 comments)

Top Commenters

  1. turtleflax (1111 points, 503 comments)
  2. tyromaniac (936 points, 416 comments)
  3. Sieress (564 points, 270 comments)
  4. bitbarrie (457 points, 192 comments)
  5. cogentat (435 points, 226 comments)
  6. Fuzzbawls (214 points, 68 comments)
  7. roveridcoffee (207 points, 120 comments)
  8. bozoforpresident (180 points, 111 comments)
  9. EricStanek (169 points, 61 comments)
  10. AntibuddhaWong (165 points, 66 comments)

Top Submissions

  1. PIVX Zerocoin release schedule announced! by tommo56700 (92 points, 49 comments)
  2. PIVX Now First Coin to Offer Both PoS and Total Privacy with Zerocoin Protocol by turtleflax (73 points, 16 comments)
  3. PIVX Welcomes You! Newcomers Please Read by pivx (64 points, 26 comments)
  4. The PIVX/KRW trading pair is live on Upbit! by turtleflax (58 points, 8 comments)
  5. PIVX - 256% IN 30 DAYS! :0 by Ithurtsbad822 (54 points, 4 comments)
  6. PIVX ROADMAP 2017 by Coin24 (50 points, 8 comments)
  7. PIVX Officially Becomes the Most Widely Translated Crypto WIth 27 languages by turtleflax (50 points, 5 comments)
  8. How PIVX Stacks Up In The Privacy Realm by aebox (49 points, 3 comments)
  9. PIVX up 50% in 3 days by turtleflax (48 points, 32 comments)
  10. PIVX the next big riser ! by mpiyer (46 points, 16 comments)

Top Comments

  1. 19 points: Rock-N-Troll's comment in What makes Pivx the best privacy coin and what is being done to make it even better?
  2. 15 points: mrrowr's comment in Which coins now are worth buying?
  3. 15 points: samv191's comment in Whats wrong with Pivx and what we can do to fix it
  4. 15 points: turtleflax's comment in Can someone explain to me why all the hate for Verge? This community really doesn’t seem to like it, and I’m trying to understand why I see it everywhere.
  5. 15 points: two_comedians's comment in PIVX is like bitcoin and not etherium. Developer can't build app with PIVX.
  6. 14 points: CrashToLive's comment in ⚠️ Vote for PIVX to be added to the Binance exchange! The steps inside only take about 3 minutes ⚠️
  7. 14 points: bitbarrie's comment in What’s the difference between Dash and PIVX
  8. 14 points: turtleflax's comment in How is PIVX is different from DASH?
  9. 13 points: ArrayBoy's comment in Yesterday I sent $10 in Bitcoin and it cost $1.53 in fees. Today I sent $60 in PIVX and it cost $0.00017
  10. 13 points: Crptnobank's comment in John McAfee on Twitter: "I am inundated by people asking me for recommendations on cryptocurrencies. If you would use your heads you would figure out that the privacy coins (anonymous transactions) will have the greatest future. Coins like Monero (XMR), Verge (XVG), or Zcash (ZEC) cannot lose."
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